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Yeah, I'd think it more important for the early Conté kings to be listed as "of Conté" because that's their claim to nobility. Whereas in the 400s, they've ruled for hundreds of years, so it's less important to have that designation. I always thought that Nestor was not "of Haryse" because he was a member of a common cadet branch, like the younger son of a younger son of a younger son, because the degree of cousinship  between Nestor and Gershom was never stated. And I thought "haMinch" was just a lingual leftover from the early empires that stood where Tortall was, but then that would mean the same for the Contés. 
 
Yeah, I'd think it more important for the early Conté kings to be listed as "of Conté" because that's their claim to nobility. Whereas in the 400s, they've ruled for hundreds of years, so it's less important to have that designation. I always thought that Nestor was not "of Haryse" because he was a member of a common cadet branch, like the younger son of a younger son of a younger son, because the degree of cousinship  between Nestor and Gershom was never stated. And I thought "haMinch" was just a lingual leftover from the early empires that stood where Tortall was, but then that would mean the same for the Contés. 
   
And since "ibn" seems to have come from the Arabic "bin" which was territorial designation, then both men and women would use it. And in this case, nobility. 
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And since "ibn" seems to have come from the Arabic "bin" which was a territorial designation, then both men and women would use it. And in this case, nobility. 

Latest revision as of 16:23, November 5, 2017

Yeah, I'd think it more important for the early Conté kings to be listed as "of Conté" because that's their claim to nobility. Whereas in the 400s, they've ruled for hundreds of years, so it's less important to have that designation. I always thought that Nestor was not "of Haryse" because he was a member of a common cadet branch, like the younger son of a younger son of a younger son, because the degree of cousinship  between Nestor and Gershom was never stated. And I thought "haMinch" was just a lingual leftover from the early empires that stood where Tortall was, but then that would mean the same for the Contés. 

And since "ibn" seems to have come from the Arabic "bin" which was a territorial designation, then both men and women would use it. And in this case, nobility. 

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