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  • Did you hear that Tammy’s Tortall books are being turned into a television series?!

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    • Can’t be any worse than some of what happened in Game of Thrones, though, you know? I never really like those two together... Immortals was always my least favorite of the Tortall Quartets.

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    • Oh, definitely not as bad as GoT, but a lot of the iffy parts in GoT made me stop watching after the first season anyway.

      I never cared for that pairing, and reading it back as an adult makes me so uncomfortable. I think they get together when they're 16/32, right? And not only that but he was her parental figure/teacher for years...

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  • Is there anyone else we are missing to go into the Scanran War category? I’ve run out of people I can think of who belong in that category but who aren’t listed yet. I think between the two of us we’ve gotten most, if not all, of them in the last week or so... the last several names I thought of already were in it.

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    • Sorry to hear that. I’ve been mostly working on designing concrete beams for a hospital addition. Before that I was doing pretty much the same for a university’s chemistry building. Also working on restoring the facade of a baseball stadium, which is fun. I’m a bit tired of concrete now, though...

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    • Understandably so. That's a lot of concrete

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  • Hi Sarah, for some reason, this did not allow me to post on your wall, so I'm posting it here.

    I'm wondering why you're using title case instead of sentence case for article headings and subheadings. The style is based on the Wikipedia Manual of Style, and has been used as a standard on the wiki since the beginning.

    (It's my fault for not bringing this up sooner, I should have looked.)

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    • Also, I’ve been wondering what’s going on with you sometimes being able to post to my wall and sometimes not. That is super weird...

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    • It is weird. I wonder if we could just restart message mode, but I worry we'd lose all past conversations.

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  • I came across the page of Elspetra Rittevon while updating infoboxes today.  It says on the page that Tamora Pierce mentioned her on the internet, but there is no reference available to check and a Google search for her yielded me no results.

    The page lists you as the only contributer, so I was wondering if you remember where you saw the information?  It's fine if you don't, since you created and last edited the page back in 2016, but I think if we can't find any information for her anywhere to be able to put a reference link, that we should delete the page.  We can always bring it back later if her information pops up somewhere... I'll leave it up to you.

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    • I just googled the Danish tiara... gorgeous! :)

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    • Yeah, that's probably my favorite.

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  • I take it from the recent wave of new pages that “Tempests and Slaughter” was just released?

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    • Tristan seemed very much in character for me, though I never saw Varice as particular talented with depth of magic. I’m curious to see what changes so much to make Ozorne turn on Arram since they seem so utterly devoted to each other. Is it just that Arram wants to leave Carthak? That seems a bit extreme. Also, Arram can’t be more than 13 by the end of the book and yet he’s described like he’s much older, with his feelings for Varice, and his towering height. There’s no way he went from normal sized to super tall before the age of 14. He would have just started a spurt then and wouldn’t even be near the height of a giant like Sarge...

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    • Hmm, I remember a distinct point when Numair said that running from Ozorne changed his temperament, but I don't remember which book. Yeah, I think that Tammy made him powerful in all aspects when she kind of forgot that whole angle she had with him only being able to do incredibly strong magic. 

      How Tammy handled Varice and Ozorne annoyed me too. She really swept them to the side, and I think showing how Ozorne thought and more of his life would be much more compelling. 

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  • I don’t think we need things like Tortall and Tortallan royal family listed as affiliations for the King of Tortall. Both of those are very obvious based on who he is. I think it should be used more for people that the characters are affiliated with that aren’t listed elsewhere in the infobox or for events not listed elsewhere in the box.

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    • I know it doesn't necessarily mean "friends" but I honestly thought that's what you were going for (considering they all happen to be friends from childhood). And "affiliation" does have a positive connotation (not enemies) just because of the etymology. So yes, I think it's super misleading having enemies there with no explanation. And honestly, considering all the other characters (groups, enemies, and friends alike) that could be listed, Francis is a bit of a stretch. It's now been upwards of 30 years in-universe and I think the infobox should reflect the most recent information at least in that respect. 

      It can and should be mentioned in a relationships section though.

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    • The ideas for sections are good, but we don't want the infobox to be too crowded, which is why it's great to save a lot of that stuff for a relationships section. If we do that, it should only be their main antagonist/ally in the book. Like with Kel, I wouldn't put all of Joren's cronies there, but Joren would be fine; and then obviously Maggur and Blayce.

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  • Alanna: The First Adventure was part of a Double Jeopardy clue on Jeopardy! this evening! :O

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  • I have a digital copy of the complete Protector of the Small series and one of Trickster's Queen from my library and they include a new short story about Bonedancer and a sneak peak of the upcoming Tempests and Slaughter.  It might be worth a look at your library to see if they have the most up-to-date digital copies to included these bonuses as well. :)

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    • I think just in the position categories, titles are sort of their own thing.

      Allegiance would be good to add right before affilitation, for things like countries or monarchs.  It would definitely be a good add for Tristan's page, as even though his origin is unknown, he definitely had allegiance to Ozorne and Carthak!

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    • I added redirects for “Goodwin” and “Tunstall”.

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  • Got my Spy’s Guide in the mail today, treasure trove of information. :)

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    • Also Jasson III ruling until 422 (and not even dying but abdicating) is really complicated. Because if either Jasson or Daneline were alive when Alanna entered page training, one would think they'd be important enough to mention. It's a huge inconsistency, and I'm still trying to get my mind around it.

      Not to mention that the Contés are an extremely long-lived dynasty for a family that always seems to have a succession problem.

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    • I think it’s only sporadically where they’ve had problems with succession. It seems, at least from Thom’s notes, that several of the monarchs had tons of children and grandchildren. When the monarchs didn’t have kids of their own, they at least had nieces and nephews to succeed them. And even with Roald V, Duke Roger was a Conté who could have inherited and carried on the family name... had he not gone crazy mad.

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  • Rattail was his first and much gentler mate, bandits are what Brokefang thoughtfully kept Daine safe from while she was being hunted and her family hurt, Frostfur was Brokefang's second mate, it happens it first mate and pups were harmed. It's Rattail who's mentioned the least, but it's clear the young girl misses this gentler mate of Brokefang's.


    Brokefang he tells his new mate she's not what we are but she's insufficient she'll be safe, he trusts the girl but Frostfur isn't sure she wants to trust her. Stealing tree cutting tools, and taking food are what the wolves in Brokefang's pack do independently to do a bit of revenge against Yolane's mean plans. He let the young girl first warn Yolane they'll do somethings drastic if she keeps doing stuff that'll make the wild animals starve as well as scare them, but Yolane doesn't care.


    In the first book Wild Magic the young girl explains she was with the wolf pack long enough to forget she was human as well as forget she was herself, so that's why she was first afraid to practice the steps of her magic. But then Brokefang's pack needed so much help to survive against Yolane Russet and Fleetfoot brought the young girl back to him. And in the second book she's meeting pups who are close to adolescent parts of their age, nearly ready to hunt. 


    He's brave and loyal enough to let the friendly immortals join the young girl while they're trying to stop the serious trouble Yolane wants to start since it'll harm all three animals, plants, and other people of the kingdom higher up. Dunlath is a lower part of the Tortallan kingdom it's said so in the book. I'm reading it currently and just recently I read the first book. Yolane has firm jealousy of being queen that's what really happens, so she's fighting against the current king when he's done nothing to her yet, as well as harming immortals Yolane also doesn't listen to her half sister Maura. But Brokefang lets the 10 year old stay with his team of humans and animals, including a few immortals who were tired of Yolane's torture secretly. Like ogres for example.

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    • Do I just click edit again to make changes on the same page? I'm indeed thankful of your clear patience with such tasks Magewhisperer. 

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    • Yes, just do everything as you did before, only instead of typing a new section, just reword what you've already written.

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