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Hi, I'm glad you like the stuff I'm doing. I've put some work in the wiki since May, and it's good to see that the effort seems to be successful.
Don't worry, you'll pick up all the essentials of writing and editing articles here quickly. And the great thing about wikis: You can't break anything, so don't hesitate and just do. Nice to see you already created some articles and that you wrote some information about you on your user page, it's always a good thing to know more about the other editors (that reminds me that I should really update my own user page).
If you need anything, have questions or problems, just leave me a message and I'll try to fix it. --Purzel 17:53, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
- I forgot to mention the Quote of the Week, Did you know... and Featured article sections, where I always appreciate other nominations and vote than my own. So if you stumble upon an especially well-written or detailed article, a good quote in one of the novels or a less-known fact, don't hesitate to add it to the respective page as nomination or vote on the existing nominations. --Purzel 17:59, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
I've just found (well, rather selected, because I knew they existed) two pages which might be useful to you:
- Manual of Style; it explains the basics for how things should be edited, e. g. formatting the first mention of the articles name in the text bold (by the way, I've noticed that you have put the articles name on top of the article as a heading, which isn't really necessary ... formatting the first mention bold is enough)
- Cheatsheet; makes a good overview over how to do certain editings/formattings ... I figured you are using the rich text editor, which makes it a lot easier for new editors and then you don't really need the cheatsheet right now, but it could perhaps come handy one time;
I hope those pages are helpful. --Purzel 06:07, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
(While I'm at it signing my post, that's something you should do, too. On talk-pages (like this one or mine or even the ones related to articles (not the articles themselves, though)) posts should be signed with your name so others know who wrote it ... simply put --~~~~ at the end of your text (I think there should be a button in the editor to make this, although I'm not quite sure about it right now)
Hi Mhairimcevoy, I guess we'll both be one of the people who edits this Wikia. I'm kinda glad 'bout that, too. --L.A Austerford 00:09, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
Renaming list of cities, fiefs and so on Edit
Hey, I just wanted to drop you a note that I just renamed the page you created Cities, Fiefs,Forts, Towns,Baronies,Rivers, Lakes, Mountians and Hills,Roads, and Villages of the Tortallan Universe. The title was quite long, difficult to remember/type and took up very much space in its category. I think "landmarks" might be appropriate for it, but if you find another fitting, short title you'd prefer, don't hesitate to rename (= move) it again or let me know of your idea and I'll remane it. --Purzel • Talk 09:30, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
I'm glad you like the new name. I've also merged the fiefs you listed on this article with List of Tortallan Fiefs, because there's no need to have two such lists and the other one was already quite comprehensive. Furthermore I've done some linking, both to already existing and already as "red link" existing articles.
I'm not so glad with the structuring I've done so far. I think the "Mountains"-sections might not be too difficult to add to the Tortall-heading, but I'm not at all sure where to put the Roof of the World (does it belong to Sarain? Somehow I think not, so where does it belong?) and I'm not at all sure where Boglot Lake is situated.
Anyways, perhaps you might also want to take a look at my draft for a new Manual of Style? I'd be really glad for some opinions.
RE: Trickster's Choice article Edit
You're right that image doesn't look to great. I'll see if I can find a better one and upload it, but I don't know yet when I'll have time for it, because university starts again today, which makes me quite busy.
If you have time to do it before me, it's not that difficult. You just have to save a copy of the desired image on your harddisk and then upload it using this form: Upload form. I've already given you the one that will replace the old image. Thus if there comes a error message asking you if you want to replace the image, just say yes or "save all" or whatever it says.
RE: How Many People come here Edit
Yeah, that is bothering me, too. But as a matter of fact there are really quite a few people looking at the site. I've found a webpage a few days ago which gives statistics for how many people come to specific sites. You can look at the charts here. One thing that must definitely be mentioned is that the amount of people visiting our wiki has increased in the last months. We just had a new peek in monthly visitors on Janury 13 with 2500 people. If you take into account that the topic isn't as popular as, say, Harry Potter or one of the many TV shows, I think that's quite a number. The charts also show that there was a definite increase of visitors when Bloodhound was published and I'm hoping that this will apply to Mastiff, too, once it's finally released (although I admit that it's still a while until then; by the way Tammy now also put the new date, 2011, on her webpage, so it seems to be as "official" as we can get).
Meanwhile we could still try to do our best at making this site as good as we can and drawing new visitors here that way (the wiki already shows at the top of some search results relating to Tammy's books, mostly when searching for characters, which I certainly count as an improvement). I'm also considering applying for a spotlight for this wiki (the wiki-links you see at the bottom of every page), hoping this might also draw more visitors (and contributors) here, but I wanted to wait until had the new Manual of Style up because it makes a better impression with such things solved. I'm not quite sure when I'll put the new MoS up, however, because I've quite a workload for university at the moment and want to look over it again before putting it up. I'll probably get to that in a month or so.
RE: Editing Edit
Actually, I'm not so sure about the informative value of those ratings. For one thing they really depend upon how many people rated the article. So if only one person rated an article with one star, which could also be because he doesn't like the character described there, that would have much more impact than on articles where more people voted and we would get a more objective view. Although this would speak for your point in encouraging people to rate articles, I'm still not sure. The article's rating doesn't change unless the person in question changes their vote. While this might sometimes (very rarely) happen, it's inprobable to happen often. Thus even when an article was changed and was improved the old rating remains, declaring it to be still as bad as before. I myself don't use the rating feature often and I certainly don't make my editing dependant of it, because it has--in my opinion--many flaws, which makes it contraproductive to tell people to vote on articles, in my opinion.
However, I totally see your point. Some way to make out articles in need of improvement would be good. We already have some categories and special pages where you get a list of possible articles in need of work. Those are:
- Oldest Pages, which lists all articles that haven't been edited in a while and thus were probably neglected in the near past
- Orphaned Pages, which lists all articles that aren't linked to from other articles and thus can't be found through "normal" browsing through articles and clicking on intra-wiki links (links to those pages should be added from other, appropriate articles)
- Pages with the fewest revisions, which lists all articles that haven't been edited often; those few revisions often indicate a lack of detail)
- Short Pages, the same as the above;
- Wanted Pages, which lists all "red links" in the existing article, also showing which pages are wanted the most, e.g. giving the number of articles linking to those non-existing pages;
- Stubs, a category listing all pages with the "stub" template; this often indicates that the articles are too short/lack vital information and are thus in need of improvement (because the tags are added by people, not a computer, there might also be articles which don't really qualify for the template, then simply remove it)
- Articles from Wikipedia (those should be rewritten, at least the parts that were taken from wikipedia, to make them our original work)
- Articles that need to be wikified (as suggested by the name those articles must be brought in a clear structure and formatted to meet wiki-standards)
I'm also thinking about an additional page where people can list articles that need help with naming what exactly has to be done to make editing more efficient. I'll keep you up-to-date on that. --Purzel • Talk 14:51, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Eta: I've just created a page for a to-do-list and added some articles that came to my mind, but there are still many others in need of improvement (I for one really think that rewriting the book summaries originally taken from wikipedia should be a priority). Just let me know if you have anything to add about the subject (I'll also see how I might add a notice about rating to the main page ... it's already so full, so if you have any idea where exactly it should be added just let me know or go ahead and add it yourself, every page of the wiki is free for editing for everyone, after all). --Purzel • Talk 19:10, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I was wondering where you got the picture of the Tortall Palace, and if it would be considered valid? I'm trying to write a story, and want to have a discription. Thank you!